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Had a few small chub after that
Both require skill in packing to build structure into the pack, but when dialed, they distribute weight just fine
In addition to a zippered pocket accessed from the top of the pack, you get one big expanding mesh pocket on the front, a large water bottle mesh slot on each side thats big enough for a Nalgene, and zigzag compression straps on each side that have enough room for a Thermarest Z-pad
Putting a laptop inside helps some, but we dont like it when a laptop has to act as a bags frame sheet
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